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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Dec 12, 2013 16:05:36 GMT -5
Hey guys, Something along these lines was thrown out there last year. I don't remember exactly what was discussed, but now's a good time to bring it up as we're less than a month from our Minors and 1st Year Player Draft beginning.
I would like for each team to at least have some option and first crack at their own franchises' draft picks from the previous season. Maybe it's something we do just for the first 2 rounds because maybe an owner would like to draft the top picks from each of their two franchises. For example, let's say Ray wants to use his 1st pick on a White Sox draftee and his 2nd pick on a Dodgers draftee, then nobody else would be allowed to pick a White Sox or Dodger draftee until the 3rd round. Just an idea. I'm just trying to come up with a way to allow an owner the right to claim one of his own franchise's new minor leaguers before another team.
I do want to keep ties to our original naming franchises but understand as the years go on our rosters will have less and less of those players. Keeping some form of minor league tie would be nice. Then on the other hand the majority of you might say no thank you, we don't want that and don't care about our naming franchises minors systems. Well to be honest, I'm hoping that's not the case because aside from some owners who have taken over teams, most of us chose or are fans of the teams we own.
Please let me know your thoughts.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Dec 13, 2013 12:18:58 GMT -5
Way better idea. Each owner is allowed to name/protect any two minor leaguers from the previous season's MLB 1st Year Player Draft from either one of their two naming franchises. This gives each owner the ability to retain at least one player from each Major League team, or two from the same farm system if so desired. These players would have to be posted PRIOR to the start of our Diamond Duos Minor League draft.
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Dec 13, 2013 13:11:37 GMT -5
Here is the problem I have with this- you can't control what your MLB team does. They may take a guy for completely different motivation than you would have for your team. They may take a defense only shortstop in the first round or not sign a guy in order to have depth later on. Or they may just make terrible decisions.
I am not completely opposed to the idea, but I think 1 would be sufficient, not two. That being said, I do think it takes some of the strategy out of picking to fit your team and also takes away the advantage for the DD teams that struggled the previous season. Less ability to help turn your team around if your real-life teams don't have top picks or make poor picks.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Dec 13, 2013 19:12:18 GMT -5
Drew, it's optional. Not a lot of strategy in protecting one or two kids. I may want to give the Bosox's #1 pick from last year a shot in my farm system. You might want to do the same for one of Toronto or Chicago's picks last year. Just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 19:19:57 GMT -5
I agree with Drew on everything he said. One is enough if we want to do this at all. Worst team should get the best prospect no matter how his real franchises are doing
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Dec 13, 2013 20:55:42 GMT -5
Well we're 3 of 15. I want the league's voice too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 21:25:33 GMT -5
I think it's better just to draft reverse standings and don't allow anyone to hold back anyone. Seems the most fair I was in favor of this but it's not fair if the team has a different agenda than you do. Teams don't always draft the best player with their pick
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Post by Chuck (Philadelphia Astros) on Dec 14, 2013 17:04:13 GMT -5
I am set to pick 2nd overall in the minor league draft. I would like to be able to pick the best overall player that is available to me. If you want to protect some players from your home franchises, you can do that as long as they are not drafted in the first 2 rounds of the draft.
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Dec 14, 2013 21:07:48 GMT -5
That's not a bad idea Chuck. Something like that might work pretty well.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Dec 14, 2013 23:45:26 GMT -5
That could work. So you're saying any minor league players (officially signed with a franchise) that weren't taken in the Top 2 rounds of MLB's 1st Year Player Draft last June would be eligible to be protected? I can see that working, and it's totally optional as to if anyone would want to do that. I just like the idea of having the option to expand your naming franchise and it doesn't affect the top players that will go in our draft.
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Dec 15, 2013 0:20:10 GMT -5
Yea. I would say the international free agents probably would not be able to be protected in that case, as some of them will project to be the top available players.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Dec 15, 2013 10:25:54 GMT -5
Yes, I agree. Not international free agents or players drafted in MLB's rounds 1 or 2.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 10:42:07 GMT -5
Yes, I agree. Not international free agents or players drafted in MLB's rounds 1 or 2. no, no international free agents can be "protected" in round 3
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Dec 15, 2013 10:57:02 GMT -5
Please allow me to clarify. If we allow this, an owner would have the opportunity to "protect" 1 or 2 of his own franchises' minor league players. These "protections" would need to be posted before we begin our Minor League draft.
Players not eligible to be protected prior to the start of our Diamond Duos Minor League draft are: *1st or 2nd round picks from last June's MLB 1st Year Player Draft *Any international signees from last season or this offseason
Players that would be eligible to be protected prior to the start of our Minors draft are: *Any signed minor leaguer drafted in the 3rd round or later of last year's MLB 1st Year Player Draft *Any other unowned minor leaguer
After any "protected" players are posted, we will then commence with our 2014 Diamond Duos Minors draft. Each round will be reverse order of 2013's final Roto standings. ALL players not protected will be eligible to be drafted.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 10:59:55 GMT -5
The way I understood Chuck's proposal was we draft for two rounds, no restrictions
Before we start the 3rd round, teams can protect a player from their franchise, but they don't have to. This protected player cannot be an international free agent.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Dec 15, 2013 11:27:54 GMT -5
You're all probably right. I think I misinterpreted Chuck's post. That's probably better than what I suggested. Any "protections" can happen following our first two draft rounds. Makes much more sense.
Then you're actually able to protect any minor leaguer that hasn't yet been drafted in our DD Minors draft, right? Even if he was in one of the first 2 rounds in last year's MLB 1st Year Player Draft?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 11:32:06 GMT -5
Yes, because our two rounds cover just the real first round
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Dec 15, 2013 12:07:45 GMT -5
I'm down with this plan. Option of protecting up to 2?
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Post by Chuck (Philadelphia Astros) on Dec 15, 2013 21:11:02 GMT -5
I like the idea of Drafting for 2 rounds, then protect up to 2 draft picks of your (Home teams), then re-start the draft again.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Jan 3, 2014 11:49:58 GMT -5
OK, so we will have the first two rounds of our 1st Year Player Draft beginning this Sunday night. I will unlock the 1st round's draft thread at 9:00pm EST. If 12 hours goes by then the clock expires and the next team can pick. Any skipped picks can jump back in on the thread any time. Keep an eye on the thread. I'm not going with any blackout time window overnight here. 12 hours should be plenty of time either way, regardless of what coast your're on.
Once we complete the first two rounds then each owner will have the opportunity (optional) to protect any 2 unowned or undrafted Minor Leaguers from their two parent franchises. These will be posted in a separate thread. I will give everybody 48 hours to do this and then we'll move on to the 3rd round of the minors draft.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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