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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Jan 28, 2013 17:19:14 GMT -5
Guys, let's decide on how many MiLB free agent prospects we want to draft. Remember, this is optional. If you're happy with your 50, or 35, or 10 - whatever you have - that's up to you.
But we will be having this supplemental draft. Just depends on how many and if it's going to affect already named minor leaguers. See next question too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 17:42:47 GMT -5
how about a small draft now and then each month we can choose up to one player with a waiver wire. the order can be reverse order of standings after the first month and if you decide to make a pick you go to the back of the line. this might be a good way to be able to update your minor league system during the year and keep some kind of event happening in the league every so often
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 18:40:09 GMT -5
Right now we can have a total of 50 players. It sounds like we will expand that after this supplemental draft. This supplemental draft is only for players who were NOT kept as part of the keepers from last night?
Say we didn't use Andrew's idea of a waiver a month during the season...how would we add or release players during the season? Is it first come first serve and we post a thread under Roster moves signing a minor league guy or do we have to send something to the blind bids email? Would our minor league team be locked until our first year player draft after the real one in June?
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Post by bxm701 on Jan 28, 2013 18:52:39 GMT -5
Agree with Andrews idea but I think it only works with a max involved (not just monthly max, but overall max). You cant have people just piling up prospects all day.
As for this one, I vote(d) to keep it small.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Jan 28, 2013 18:54:42 GMT -5
Answer to your first question - Yes. This will be only for players not part of the keepers.
Add/releasing during season. Well to release during season you have to post on ProBoards under Roster Moves and you can drop the player from your team in Fantrax. To add a prospect in season I think yes, it should go to fablindbids@gmail.com, but you don't have to put a price on a prospect. I think it would be first-come, first-serve, but to go with part of Andrew's idea, maybe you only get to do that once per month. I actually like that better than having a one round draft of prospects each month. Leaves it up each owner to claim their monthly prospect if you will.
I'm not following on why the Minor League roster would have to be locked until the First Year Player Draft in June. Say I draft 5 prospects this week, then I know I can only add up to 5 more (if we go with Andrew's total number of 10 to expand). I have in essence 6 months (April thru September) to add 5 prospects - almost one per month but there'd be one month I couldn't do it. If I only draft 4 now, then I'll have 6 spots left and could add one via blind bid each month.
Does this make sense? I think that could work.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 19:08:43 GMT -5
I didn't think they would be locked, I was just wondering how it was going to play out with adding prospects. Once a month sounds good instead of having someone like me shuffling Single A players around 5 times a week....
I like the idea of expanding the Minor league roster to 60. Adding a player once a month until you reach that point. Having an amateur draft of however many rounds and then having to cut your minor league team back to 60 after a couple of days.
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Jan 28, 2013 19:15:35 GMT -5
So then what would we do for the new draftees? That's a whole new class of guys that we cannot add until a designated time. Are you saying we would have an amateur draft of our own at the same time the MLB teams are having one? Thus we would have to cut guys to get down to our limit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 19:18:23 GMT -5
I was suggesting that at some point (no idea when) we hold our own draft for guys drafted in the first yr player draft and foreign players signed. After that draft, we would have to cut down our roster to the limit.
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Jan 28, 2013 19:20:41 GMT -5
Just saw the other thread. That makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 20:09:29 GMT -5
Hey guys this is what I emailed Scott....
Scott,Really don't understand why were having another minor draft right after we just got done picking 50 minor leaguers? Why couldn't we wait and do that after this season. It will give everyone a chance to evaluate players over the season. To have another one so soon just seems to favor people who are more familiar with minor league systems. Especially when people have already started trading their prospects to aquire players to help this year, to allow them to restock their systems so quickly doesn't seem right. Just my thoughts.
As an add to this I passed on trades already because it would cost me prospects. Had I known we were going to be able to just keep adding more I might have re considered.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 20:16:08 GMT -5
the prospects that were traded were top 5, maybe top 10 in their systems. This draft would be STARTING at a team's 26th theoretically. It gives some kind of balance to teams with weak systems, but its still pretty minor. I think its more important that we have some kind of in season mechanism to pick up prospects without it being quickest to the computer. Thats why I originally said a pick up at the beginning of the month each month.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Jan 28, 2013 20:23:02 GMT -5
If we did a pickup at the beginning of each month, we could actually fit 9 in and not have to do a mini supplemental draft right now. Allowed to pick one up (as roster space would allow, possibly up to 60 as has been discussed) at beginning of Feb, Mar, April, May, June, July, Aug, Sep, Oct. You have to use your one pickup per month or lose it. Couldn't try to get two in May if you didn't use the April one.
This actually would give us all more time to scout and get acquainted with those #26 and deeper prospects out there. Thoughts? Doesn't have to be 9. We could do five. Maybe once a month Feb-June, and then have an option to select some kids from the First Year Player Draft sometime later in the season.
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Post by Chuck (Philadelphia Astros) on Jan 28, 2013 20:25:46 GMT -5
I think drafting more minor leaguers right now is a little bit of overkill. How many good prospects are going to be left anyway ? I think a good time to add more minor league prospects is in the off-season after the 2013 season is over. This way a new crop will be drafted by Major League Baseball, and we will have some time to evaluate all the new prospects. What does everyone think ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 20:26:56 GMT -5
I argue it isnt. Have you compared some of the different prospect sites out there to each other. I'd say the first 5-10 are similar and then from there they vary greatly. Now were adding prospects each month? So people can just trade theirs away and then pick up more. I say we have an amature draft at one date just like MLB. Preferably after the season so MLB has had their amature draft and the minor league season has completed. These changes make huge difference in how to play, they are not simply clarifying rules.
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Post by bxm701 on Jan 28, 2013 20:29:58 GMT -5
Just want to reconfirm wanting to have this supplemental draft - Andrew spelled it out right, we're starting at 26+. To account for other comments, I think maybe we just keep it short - 3 rounds just to give guys a chance to get their guy even if he's really deep
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 20:40:18 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong or underhanded about wanting to be able to add minor league players during the season and/or wanting to add some guys who were left off of keeper rosters.
If I traded away all 5-6 of my top flight prospects for older players and then picked up the 750-756 ranked players (15 teams*50 prospects)...I don't see anything wrong with picking up those players. I dont think its cheating the system, you traded away cheap contracts to win now. A couple of years down the road that will put your team at a serious disadvantage with a set salary cap and long term contracts.
I think it would be weird, in a league like this, if we can't actively trade, add, drop minor league players throughout the season.
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Jan 28, 2013 20:50:37 GMT -5
I tend to agree with Taylor. Also, just because someone copy and pasted the BA or John Sickels lists to claim those guys doesn't mean that those are the only guys out there worthy of being added. Those guys have their reasons for rating guys the way they do, others (including us) may have other reasons or see other things. We ought to be able to grab at least a couple of guys as free agents/draftees of our preference.
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