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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Feb 25, 2013 19:32:01 GMT -5
We open for trading or about ready to add the prospects?
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Post by bxm701 on Feb 25, 2013 20:48:03 GMT -5
Just letting people know I'm out of town till the weekend so won't be able to do any minors draft etc till then
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Feb 25, 2013 23:42:39 GMT -5
Once we've checked all 15 teams' rosters to make sure all salaries are correct and ProBoards matches exactly with Fantrax, I'm going to allow each team to select up to 3 additional prospects from their own franchises. I hope to open that up, and trading, within the next couple days - hopefully by Thursday.
Once all teams have selected their additional 3, if desired, then we'll begin a 3 round Minors draft. I will post 3 threads with the draft order for each round, in waterfall format. Would love to start this over the weekend. Will keep you posted.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Mar 10, 2013 6:00:04 GMT -5
Guys, please keep all comments about picks, signees, trades, etc. in the appropriate threads and not in the actual draft threads. They throw off the timestamps. Thanks.
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Post by Chuck (Philadelphia Astros) on Mar 10, 2013 12:48:43 GMT -5
Do we control the future draft picks for the two teams that we started with ? For example, Does the Philadelphia Astros control the future draft picks of the Astros and Phillies that are made this coming draft ?
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Mar 10, 2013 13:13:01 GMT -5
That's been brought up before, I believe by Steve Giants, and I think it's a great idea since this is a true dynasty league based on our selected franchises. Something we should decide on before the season begins. We're maxing our farm at 60 (at least this year) so maybe teams will have room to add some of your franchise's 1st Year Player Draft picks later this summer, or teams may have to open up spots to add them.
Anyone else? Thoughts?
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Post by bxm701 on Mar 10, 2013 13:41:31 GMT -5
I think we should be able to make our own decisions moving forward, not be locked to those of our original franchises.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 15:37:28 GMT -5
I agree with Ben. We've cut our ties to our original franchises already. The point of the dynasty league is to find the next stars right out of the amateur draft.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 15:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Mar 10, 2013 18:07:11 GMT -5
Yea I agree with Ben and Andrew. Our future success shouldn't be contingent on the picks that someone else makes. We should have our own draft of the selected players in my opinion.
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Mar 10, 2013 22:05:13 GMT -5
Guys, we haven't cut our ties to the original franchises. That my friends isn't true and won't happen in this league moving forward. Having said that, I think everyone in the league needs to voice their opinion on this. 3 or 4 people aren't making this call for the whole league. It may very well be open to selecting from any prospects, but it's not that cut and dry.
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Post by bxm701 on Mar 10, 2013 23:17:42 GMT -5
Define cutting ties. Andrew is right in that we own who we own now, and we will own a lot of players from our original franchises going forward assuming we don't trade every last one of them. There will always be that connection until 20 years from now when your last player from your current minors roster retires. So maybe ties haven't been cut, but I think the assumption was that we were definitely not tying any new ones (like any other dynasty league). I dont mean to nitpick but to go away from that common assumption is a pretty big change both in the attractiveness of this league (less fun) and the franchise selection process. Teams like TB who consistently draft well just got a whole lot more appealing. Maybe it's minor, but it would have been a factor. There will come a point where were going to have to leave this new toy alone and just play fantasy baseball - are you prepared for that Scott?  |
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Mar 11, 2013 7:54:33 GMT -5
I don't know.
Really? You just want to play fantasy baseball?
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Post by jsally430 on Mar 11, 2013 9:05:18 GMT -5
If you don't want to be tied.down to the picks your franchise makes them cut them. But for teams like mine where the twins are drafting in the top three. I'm probably going to want that prospect.
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Post by bxm701 on Mar 11, 2013 9:06:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 9:59:46 GMT -5
The Cardinals sign some good free agents at affordable prices...can I get those guys? Where is the line going to be drawn. I would probably gain alot from the A's and Cardinals picks, but we can't let how good or bad our own franchises currently are dictate how we think about things. If we're following what our franchises do instead of controlling our own futures (playing fantasy baseball), then I'll just watch mlb network
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 10:06:38 GMT -5
I always assumed going forward we would have a minor league draft at he end of the year based on reverse standings with the draft class of 2013 going forward. Maybe I was wrong to assume, I'm ok with however it goes.
If we did it at the end of the season it would give everyone time to review the real draft results and then make selections. Aslo we'd have the final standings to know the draft order. We could also space this out and it will give us stuff to do in the off season which is something I really enjoyed this first year!
Also what about the ability to trade draft picks also?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 10:09:40 GMT -5
That's been brought up before, I believe by Steve Giants, and I think it's a great idea since this is a true dynasty league based on our selected franchises. Something we should decide on before the season begins. We're maxing our farm at 60 (at least this year) so maybe teams will have room to add some of your franchise's 1st Year Player Draft picks later this summer, or teams may have to open up spots to add them. Anyone else? Thoughts? Scotts right I did bring this up. I'm ok however we play it I just want stuff like this decided now instead of later. |
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Post by Drew (Chicago Blue Jays) on Mar 11, 2013 10:23:28 GMT -5
I like what Steve is saying here (post from 10:06), both with the reverse standings from the season and the ability to have something to do during the offseason.
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Post by jsally430 on Mar 11, 2013 11:38:58 GMT -5
Where do you end? With a guy that doesn't have a pro.at bat yet? How about it ends like Scott has in the constitution you have a chance to.sign any players you want that aren't prospects. We're following arbitration right? Why can't we have a rule five draft or something of that nature instead of this supplemental draft.
What your team does in real life baseball well, more then likely effect your team in this league. More then most any way. .
Also why do we even have a minor league system if this how you want it. Should've just had a minor leaguer draft class. So we couldn't chose which prospects we wanted off your team.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 12:50:38 GMT -5
Not really sure I understand what your saying Jake, can't tell if your for or against only selecting from our own francises, here's what I feel it's changed over time....
I feel the finger prints of our original franchises are def all over our teams you have 50 minor players plus everyone you kept off the MLB rosters.
My original thoughts were that we should keep some type of tie to the orginal 2 franchises going forward, but now I'm not so sure. What I had a problem with in the beginning was how fast we were selecting minor players from other teams. My point was I haven't had that long to look over my team and I'd be pissed if I ended up losing some up and coming prospect because I didn't get a chance to get to know my systems. I felt we should have waited till the end of season before we could start taking minor players from other teams. i was out voted ;D and that's ok.
I can def see from the other side of the coin of allowing teams to pick their own destiny and not be tied to what their initial francise does. Maybe $$ has something to do with who a MLB team picks, or maybe they want to pick a 3B #1 and you got Miggy and would rather the #1 SP in the draft. You shoukld have that choice. I now look at the 2 team selection as a way to divey up the players at first but after that it's a long term salary cap fantasy league. I mean it's easy to want to always get the players from your 2 teams if 1. they are good drafters and 2. they are your favorite team. I'm guessing a lotof the teams that selected first picked their favorite MLB team. For a lot of teams that's not the case.
Just my thoughts...
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Post by Scott (Boston Padres) on Mar 11, 2013 15:51:02 GMT -5
Hey all. Thanks for the feedback. I am totally ok with whatever way we go here. As Steve says, the fingerprints of our two franchises are all over our teams. Right now a majority of our major and minor leaguers are from those two franchises. Guess it makes sense as we move forward that we all expand our horizons so to speak, and get on with managing our fantasy teams with the intent to compete.
Yeah, I took my favorite team Boston first, primarily because I am excited about a lot of their prospects, moreso than I am about the major league club. Then I grabbed the Padres because I thought their farm system was really good too.
OK, so how should this work? I do think, and you can all scream at me if you want, that we should keep some sort of tie to our franchises. Maybe it's just one prospect a year from either of your two franchises? I don't know. But I do like the idea of an off-season draft based on the reverse order of the previous season's Roto standings.
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Post by Chuck (Philadelphia Astros) on Mar 11, 2013 20:29:32 GMT -5
Maybe if we control a set number of draft picks from our two franchises it would still give us a flavor, then the rest of the picks could go anywhere. What does everyone think?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 21:16:01 GMT -5
Kind of pointless in my opinion. At that point you might as well keep most of them. The real strategy is going to be in making those first few picks. If we do it that way your first pick would be 60-90 picks into the draft
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Post by bxm701 on Mar 11, 2013 21:29:34 GMT -5
We each own 50 minor league players from our original franchises. Some of those players are 18 years old. I don't see the worry in cutting the cord. The fact is that the ties to our original franchises are already going to last longer than the majority of owners in this league. That's just the truth.
Offseason minor league draft each year, we pick our own players...keep it simple.
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